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    Six Vietnamese victims 'among 39 migrants dead in lorry': Frantic families pray for news of their relatives after woman's last text from inside 'metal coffin' that said 'I'm dying... I can't breathe' was revealed


    • Vietnamese national Pham Thi Tra My, 26, had travelled to China and then France in her attempt to get into UK
    • Her family said the 26-year-old had paid people smugglers £30,000 to travel to UK 'in search of a better life'
    • Texted her mother: 'I'm sorry mum. My journey hasn't succeeded. I love you. I'm dying because I can't breathe'
    • Eight women and 31 men were discovered inside the 'metal coffin' lorry container on Wednesday morning
    • Relatives of a 20-year-old man named Nguyen Dinh Luong fear he is one of the 39 victims who were found

    By Amie Gordon For Mailonline

    Published: 14:15 BST, 25 October 2019 | Updated: 21:18 BST, 25 October 2019



    Six Vietnamese victims are thought to be among 39 migrants who were found dead in a lorry in the Purfleet area of Essex on Wednesday.
    It comes as families continue to pray for news of their relatives who set off on perilous journeys to the UK, after it was revealed that one woman had text her mother from inside the 'metal coffin'.
    Pham Thi Tra My sent her mother a series of harrowing messages telling her she 'loved her' and was 'dying because she couldn't breathe.'
    Her family claim the 26-year-old paid people smugglers £30,000 to travel to the UK via China 'in search of a better life.'
    At least six of those found in the container may have been Vietnamese and new reports from the BBC now claim that a 20-year-old man is also feared to be one of the victims.
    Relatives of Nguyen Dinh Luong told the broadcaster that he may be one of those found in the container.
    Vietnam's embassy in London said it had received requests from Vietnamese families asking for help in finding out whether their relatives were among the victims found dead in the back of the truck.
    Tonight, police also revealed that a 48-year-old Northern Irish man has now been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and suspicion of manslaughter.
    This comes as a husband and wife, thought to be the last known owners of the lorry, were arrested today after police swooped on their Cheshire home, three days into the biggest murder investigation in Britain since 7/7.
    Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.


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    Pham Thi Tra My sent her mother a series of harrowing text messages telling her she 'couldn't breathe'



    20-year-old Nguyen Dinh Luong has also been named by relatives as a possible victim of the Essex lorry deaths





    In text messages sent at 10.28pm GMT on Tuesday, Pham Thi Tra told her mother, 'I love you so much...I'm sorry.' Pictured, The screenshot of Tra My's last text




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    Her family said 26-year-old Tra My paid £30,000 to travel to the UK via China 'in search of a better life'


    Police confirm 4th person arrested in lorry container death inquiry



    The 39 desperate stowaway migrants were locked up in the trailer (above). It is unclear how long they had been in there for but it is believed to be at least 15 hours

    First pictures of haulage boss and his wife arrested on 39 counts of manslaughter over Essex death truck tragedy - after it emerged she was lorry's previous owner



    Thomas Maher and his wife Joanne were arrested at 4am


    The husband and wife named by MailOnline as the last known owners of the lorry carrying 39 migrants who froze to death were arrested today after police swooped on their £400,000 Cheshire home.

    Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.

    The couple told MailOnline last night they sold the lorry cab a year ago to a company in Ireland - but police officers investigating the tragedy raided their property today before searching the couple's beauty salon around the corner, New Hair Don't Care.
    The refrigerated trailer carrying the 39 frozen trafficking victims is believed to be owned by a rental firm in Dublin.

    A Cheshire Police patrol car arrived at the Irish couple's four-bedroom house at 7am this morning before up to a dozen police officers went inside at around Midday - just before the arrests were announced. The pair have not been seen today.

    Pham Thi Tra's last text messages were sent at 10.28pm BST on Tuesday - two hours before the truck reached the UK, as it was en route from Belgium.

    Pham Thi Tra told her mother: 'I'm sorry Mum. My journey abroad hasn't succeeded. Mum, I love you so much. I'm dying because I can't breathe.'
    Tra My's brother told the BBC today his sister had told them not to contact her because 'the organisers' did not allow her to receive calls.
    He said she flew to China from her home in Can Lộc, a rural district of Hà Tĩnh Province in Vietnam, then left for France and initially attempted to cross the border into the UK on October 19, but 'got caught' and turned back.
    Tra My is thought be among the eight women and 31 men who were discovered inside the 'metal coffin' lorry container on Wednesday morning. The Vietnamese families of a 26-year-old man and a 19-year-old woman have also contacted the BBC raising fears they could be among those dead.
    Liu Xiaoming, the Chinese Ambassador to the UK, said in a tweet: 'Latest report from the Minister-Counsellor of my Embassy: Essex police emphasised they are still verifying the identity of the 39 deceased.
    'We are waiting for the police to identify the victims. This is a number one priority.'
    The report has emerged from Human Rights Space, a civic network based in Vietnam, but there has not yet been any further verification of its claims, or those of her brother.
    Hoa Nghiem from HRS said: 'It was told on the news that all 39 people were Chinese but Tra My's family is trying to verify if their daughter was among them as the last dying text from her was coincidentally in time.
    'Our contact is getting more alerts that there could be more Vietnamese people in the truck.'
    Police previously said the eight women and 31 men were all believed to be Chinese nationals, but claims have now surfaced online that some may have been from Vietnam.
    The Vietnamese Embassy in London confirmed it has contacted police in regard to Tra My.
    A spokesman for the embassy said they had been contacted by a family in Vietnam which claimed their daughter had been missing 'since the lorry was found'.

    Video :Tributes paid to the 39 dead migrants at a vigil in Belfast.












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    The map above shows the perilous 5,000 mile journey the 39 migrants would have taken to get to the UK having paid 'snakehead' gangsters £20,000 for the privilege



    Private Ambulances arriving at Tilbury Port to remove the remaining victims from the container this morning

    The spokesman said: 'We have contacted Essex Police and we are waiting for an answer.'

    What we know about the death trap container trips across the Channel and the driver who picked it up with 39 dead inside

    October 15:
    Mo Robinson picked up the container from Dublin and drove it to County Monaghan, in Ireland. Robinson then drove it to Dublin and took the ferry to Holyhead.

    October 20:
    The Northern Irishman crossed back to Ireland on the 2.30am ferry from Holyhead to Dublin. He then returned to Britain on the 8.55pm ferry from Dublin to Holyhead.

    October 23:
    12.30am Robinson picked up container from Purfleet port in Essex
    1.10am He pulled into Watergate Industrial Park, Essex.
    1.40am Police called by ambulance service after the 39 frozen bodies were found.

    October 25:
    Husband and wife thought to be the last known owners of the lorry are at their Cheshire home.
    Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.
    Vietnamese national Pham Thi Tra My is thought be among the eight women and 31 men who were discovered inside the 'metal coffin' lorry container on Wednesday morning.



    Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.
    The couple told MailOnline last night they sold the lorry cab a year ago to a company in Ireland - but police officers investigating the tragedy raided their property today. The refrigerated trailer carrying the 39 frozen trafficking victims is believed to be owned by a rental firm in Dublin.
    A Cheshire Police patrol car arrived at the Irish couple's house at 7am this morning before up to a dozen police officers went inside at around Midday - just before the arrests were announced. The pair have not been seen.

    As Tra My is feared to be the first named victim found in the freezing container, this is what we know so far:

    • Last know owners of the lorry that picked up trailer containing 39 migrants arrested. Joanna and Thomas Maher, both 38, from Warrington, are understood to have been held on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter.
    • Police have until this afternoon to decide whether to charge lorry driver 'Mo' Robinson, 25, with murder or other offences, bail him or release him without charge;
    • The refrigerated container he picked up on Tuesday had made the same journey from Belgium to Britain days earlier;
    • The bodies of the 39 dead migrants are being moved one-by-one by private ambulance from Tilbury docks to Chelmsford mortuary for post-mortem examinations;
    • 'Snakehead' gangsters from south-east China suspected to be behind the trafficking plot - but Chinese state-media has instead accused Britain of failing to take 'responsibility' for the welfare of migrants;
    • Home Office was warned in 2017 about 'thinly stretched' security at Purfleet and a lack of deterrence for drivers 'tempted' to bring in illegal migrants into Britain;
    • Vietnamese national Pham Thi Tra My is named as one of the first potential victims found in the lorry. Two other families have been in touch with the BBC. They are relatives of a 26-year-old man and a 19-year-old woman


    Last night Mrs Maher told MailOnline: 'It's the cab - my name was down as owning it.
    'We did own it but sold it 13 months ago', adding they sold it to a company in County Monaghan, close to where truck driver Maurice 'Mo' Robinson, 25, lives.




    This harrowing image shows a fleet of private ambulances arriving at Tilbury Docks to take away the victims




    Final journey: How the 39 tragic migrants ended up in Purfleet, Essex, dead in the back of a refrigerated biscuit lorry



    The industrial estate where the 39 migrants were found frozen to death in the back of a lorry remains sealed off today as police questioned the driver for a third day



    Police at the Warrington home of Joanna Maher, 38, and her husband Thomas, also 38, today where the couple are understood to have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter



    Police the home of Joanna and Thomas Maher who were the last named owners of the lorry which was found containing 39 migrants



    Robinson arrived in the UK at the weekend after a ferry from Dublin to Holyhead. He picked up the trailer, which had been shipped from Zeebrugge to Purfleet, yesterday morning. Minutes later, he pulled into the Essex industrial estate and the alarm was raised

    Police are also questioning the Northern Irish trucker for the third day with a decision on whether to charge him with murder or release him expected this afternoon.
    An Essex Police spokesman said: 'We have carried out warrants in Cheshire as part of the investigation into 39 bodies being discovered in a lorry trailer in Grays.
    'As a result, a 38-year-old man and a 38-year-old woman from Warrington have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to traffic people and on suspicion of 39 counts of manslaughter. A 25-year-old man, the driver of the lorry, remains in custody on suspicion of murder'.
    The container carrying migrants had previously criss-crossed the Channel via refugee hotspots in the week before it arrived in Britain with 39 frozen bodies inside, perhaps for several days, it was revealed today.
    Today their bodies were moved by private ambulance from Tilbury docks to Chelmsford mortuary for post-examinations that will run into next week.


    Two houses have been raided by police in Northern Ireland - one belonging to the lorry driver in Markethill and the other belonging to his parents in Laurelvale, both Co Armagh. A third house in Armagh City has also been raided

    Mastermind in misery: Brutal rise and fall of 'Snakehead' gang leader 'Sister Ping' - as it emerges Triad-linked mob use Chinese version of TINDER to lure desperate families to UK with offers of '100% safe travel' for '£20,000 fee'

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    Snakeshead kingpin, Cheng Chui Ping, also known as 'Sister Ping', who ran the world's largest people smuggling network for 20 years until her death in a US jail

    By Tracy You and Martin Robinson

    The trafficking gang believed to have smuggled the tragic 39 Asian migrants into Britain was built by a ruthless Chinese matriarch known as the 'Mother of all Snakeheads' who made millions from trafficking during a 20-year reign of terror.
    Gangland boss Sister Ping died in a Texas prison in 2014 where she was serving 35 years for building the world's most sophisticated network of people smugglers who brought up to 200,000 illegal immigrants into America alone.
    At her New York trial in 2005 she was described as 'evil incarnate' who had made a fortune moving generations of Chinese people around the world for £20,000 since the early 1980s.
    This debt would either be paid back in wages from menial work in the West - or relatives back in the Chinese province of Fujian, known as the country's 'cradle of human smuggling', would be forced at gunpoint to take out a loan from Sister Ping's own sharks.
    Police eventually traced Sister Ping to China Town in New York and put her in the dock for people smuggling. But despite her incarceration and death her snakehead gang is still going strong - although its new leader is not yet known.
    Without her the gang is moving with the times and using social media apps including China's equivalent to Tinder, MoMo, as well as popular messaging app WeChat, promising '100 per cent safe travel'.


    The south-eastern province of Fujian in China has a long histories of sending migrants abroad for cash


    Traffickers are using social media apps including China's equivalent to Tinder, MoMo (pictured), as well as popular messaging app WeChat

    Adverts with attractive slogans such as 'speedy passage of border checks! Pay upon arrival!' are circulating on apps.
    People dreaming of a new life away from China pay an online deposit as low as 5,000 yuan (£550) before being crammed into boats or containers for a long, dark and risky journey, local media reported.
    Chinese, particularly those with lower education levels, continue to be drawn to Europe and North America by the promise of much higher wages than they can earn at home, despite the considerable risks involved.
    The victims would flee home hoping for a better life in the UK - but their journey to Britain would be miserable and dangerous, spending up to a month in the back of lorries in dangerous and squalid conditions.
    Most would be flown from China to Serbia and then transported by road through Hungary, Austria, France before a boat to Britain from Belgium or Holland.
    Mike Gradwell, a former Lancashire Police detective superintendent who worked on the probe into the Morecambe Bay cockling tragedy in which 23 Chinese illegal immigrants drowned, told BBC Breakfast that those in the trailer were most likely trafficked by Snakehead gangs.
    He said: 'These are criminal travel agents really - you go to a Snakehead to say you want to be trafficked to an economic opportunity and usually you'll borrow quite a significant amount of money.'
    He said relatives were likely to have been in contact with those being trafficked, who may have been carrying phones which could be used by police to help identify them.
    Lisa Yam, a lawyer specialising in Chinese immigration, told the programme: 'We find it is quite difficult to believe why we still have so many Chinese that choose to come into the country (like this).'



    'The migrant minibuses wait there all night': How quiet Essex port at centre of death truck tragedy 'comes alive at night' as ruthless traffickers exchange human cargo under cover of darkness
    People-smuggling operations are so rife at the port where 39 migrants were found dead this week that there is said to be a 'migrant minibus service'.
    Former port security guard Gary Lilley, 61, has described how Purfleet on the River Thames in Essex 'comes alive at night' with the arrival of trafficked migrants.
    Mr Lilley, who lives opposite the port where he worked for six weeks in 2012, also claimed minibuses meet lorries to take away the migrants following their arrival.




    Lorries are pictured outside the Purfleet Thames Terminal in Essex on Wednesday




    An aerial view of Purfleet Port (file image) where 39 migrants were found dead this week. Police have now gone back on original claims that the migrants were Chinese

    He told The Times that there is a 'notorious' lay-by near the port where migrants ditch their documents so UK authorities don't know where to repatriate them to.
    He added: 'Minibuses wait there at night for them to arrive. Last summer during the heatwave I gave water bottles to two five-year-old girls as they looked desperate.
    'They were standing by the side of the road in a group of about 15. At the lay-by you see the lorries pull up and the migrants pop their heads out to see if it's safe.
    'On many occasions I've seen minibuses pull up and they jump in and are driven off. It's so organised.'


    Purfleet in Essex is said to 'come alive at night' with the arrival of trafficked migrants



    Minibuses are said to meet lorries to take away the migrants following their arrival at Purfleet



    Police drive the lorry along a road from the scene at Waterglade Industrial Park on Wednesday

    Smugglers put on 'mini bus service' to deal with demand in Purfleet

    Last night it was revealed that the Thames port where the migrants were found 'comes alive at night' with new arrivals.
    A former security guard told The Times that smuggling is so well organised in the area that mini buses meet the migrants and take them away.
    Gary Lilley worked at the port for around six weeks as a security guard seven years ago.
    He said: 'The port comes alive at around 2am. I've seen groups of migrants walking out the front door of the port with carrier bags.
    'When there's a group of them a few security guards on minimum wage aren't going to stop them. They are all ages, babes in arms and five-year-old girls.
    'Minibuses wait there at night for them to arrive. Last summer during the heatwave I gave water bottles to two five-year-old girls as they looked desperate.'

    Mr Lilley said security is 'lax' at the port, with an X-ray scanner on a customs and excise lorry arriving once every two months for a day to scan vehicles arriving.
    The local resident, who has lived in the area for 30 years, said the deaths were 'heartbreaking' and left him upset - but he was not surprised by what happened.
    It follows the National Crime Agency warning in 2016 that people-smugglers were switching to Purfleet because it was 'less busy' than other UK entry points.
    The incident on Wednesday has raised questions about border checks and whether the authorities have done enough to tackle trafficking gangs.
    This May the NCA warned that Belgian ports such as Zeebrugge – from where the contained travelled to Purfleet - were becoming people-smuggling hotspots.
    An earlier report from the Border Force also said Zeebrugge was a key concern.
    Asked about security at Purfleet, a Home Office spokesman said this week: 'I cannot comment on the specific deployment of Border Force staff and security technology.'
    Last night, police began moving the bodies found in the refrigerated trailer attached to a lorry as a 25-year-old man remains in custody on suspicion of murder.
    How people-smuggling gangs use refrigerated lorries to hide their human cargo from port officials' thermal cameras... to tragic ends



    Scanners used to detect stowaways in lorries but sources claim they don't work as well on refrigerated units. This is image was taken at Dover, showing migrants sitting on top of boxes inside a traditional container

    A refrigerated container was used to smuggle 39 migrants into the UK because it evaded detection by thermal imaging equipment, security staff at the port where it entered Britain have claimed.
    The container arrived at Purfleet port, Essex, on the River Thames from Zeebrugge, Belgium.
    Security personnel at both ports are equipped with thermal cameras which are used to try and detect stowaways. These are used for traditional containers but not refrigerated ones.
    One security official, who did not want to be named, said: 'Thermal imaging equipment doesn't work on refrigerated containers. They are simply too cold, and you can't pick up any heat that might be coming from somebody hidden inside.
    'The smuggling gang must have known this, it just goes to show how clever they are. They are constantly looking for loopholes and sadly, it's ended up with all these people losing their lives.'
    It came as locals in Purfleet and Thurrock also told MailOnline they had often seen groups of migrants close to where 39 migrants were found dead in a lorry yesterday.


    Police are still gather evidence in the area in Grays, Essex, where the lorry containing 39 dead immigrants - 31 men and eight women - was found on Tuesday
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    Les scanners permettent de détecter les passagers clandestins dans les camions, mais des sources affirment qu'ils ne fonctionnent pas aussi bien sur les unités réfrigérées. Cette image a été prise à Douvres, montrant des migrants assis sur des boîtes dans un conteneur traditionnel

    Un conteneur réfrigéré a été utilisé pour faire entrer clandestinement 39 migrants au Royaume-Uni parce qu'il avait échappé à toute détection par un équipement d'imagerie thermique, ont affirmé des agents de sécurité du port où il était entré en Grande-Bretagne.
    Le conteneur est arrivé au port de Purfleet, Essex, sur la Tamise, en provenance de Zeebrugge, en Belgique.
    Le personnel de sécurité des deux ports est équipé de caméras thermiques permettant de détecter les passagers clandestins. Ceux-ci sont utilisés pour les récipients traditionnels mais pas ceux réfrigérés.
    Un responsable de la sécurité, qui ne voulait pas être nommé, a déclaré: «Les équipements d'imagerie thermique ne fonctionnent pas sur les conteneurs réfrigérés. Ils sont tout simplement trop froids et vous ne pouvez pas capter la chaleur qui pourrait provenir de quelqu'un caché à l'intérieur.

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    Grande Bretagne: une victime vietnamienne serait montée à bord du camion en Belgique



    Grande Bretagne: une victime vietnamienne serait montée à bord du camion en Belgique - © BEN STANSALL - AFP


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    Une personne de nationalité vietnamienne, qui pourrait faire partie des 39 victimes découvertes dans un camion frigorifique au Royaume-Uni, serait montée à bord depuis la Belgique, ressort-il de témoignages recueillis par la BBC.

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    Pham Thi Tra My a dit à sa mère par SMS : «Je suis désolée maman. Mon voyage à l'étranger n'a pas réussi. Maman, je t'aime tellement. Je meurs parce que je ne peux pas respirer."

    Le frère de Tra My a déclaré à la BBC aujourd'hui que sa sœur lui avait dit de ne pas la contacter car "les organisateurs" ne lui permettaient pas de recevoir des appels.

    Elle s'est rendu en Chine depuis son domicile à Can Lộc, un district rural de la province de Hà Tĩnh, une province pauvre du centre du Vietnam, puis est parti pour la France et a d'abord tenté de franchir la frontière britannique, le 19 octobre, mais s'est fait prendre et a fait demi-tour.

    On pense que Tra My figure parmi les huit femmes et les 31 hommes qui ont été découverts à l'intérieur du conteneur de camion «cercueil en métal» mercredi matin. Les familles vietnamiennes d'un homme de 26 ans et d'une femme de 19 ans ont également contacté la BBC, craignant d'être parmi ces personnes.

    Nguyen Dinh Luong, 20 ans, a également été cité par des proches pour etre parmi les victimes potentielles. Quelques jours avant, il se photographiait au pied de l'église du Sacré-cœur a Paris.

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    Bien que les autorités britanniques aient annoncé jeudi que les victimes seraient toutes chinoises, il est apparu vendredi que plusieurs familles vietnamiennes étaient préoccupées par des parents dont elles n'avaient pas entendu parler depuis un certain temps.
    Ces personnes pourraient faire partie des corps découverts mercredi. Un femme de 26 ans aurait notamment déclaré par SMS mardi à 23h30 (heure belge) qu'elle ne pouvait plus respirer, soit deux heures avant que le camion arrive à Essex.


    Une autre femme de 19 ans aurait eu contact le matin même avec son frère alors qu'elle se trouvait en Belgique. Elle lui aurait signifié son plan de monter à bord d'un container, après quoi elle a éteint son téléphone.
    La famille de la femme de 26 ans a également fait savoir à la chaîne britannique qu'elle avait versé 30.000 livres sterling à un passeur. (= 34 900 EUR)

    PS) 30.000 livres sterling à un passeur. (= 34 900 EUR) Ca c'était pour le voyage Chine - France
    Pour le voyage en congelo Zébruge Belgique - Angleterre elle a payé combien ?
    Le conteneur traverse tout seul et le passeur envoi Maurice dit "Mo" et son tracteur le récupérer.
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    Mes suppositions : La fille ne se plaint pas du froid (- 25) mais dit qu'elle ne peut plus respirer. Ca veut dire qu'il y a un conteneur dans le conteneur, avec une isolation. Le tout entouré de poulets congelés pour leurrer les caméras thermiques. Mais 39 personnes dans moins de 10 m2... Ca fait 4 personnes au m2... Ils sont debout ?

    Le chauffeur "Mo" sort le conteneur du port puis l'ouvre... Pour faire sortir les migrants de leur cachette. Il y a des minibus qui les attendent.
    Mo constate qu'ils sont tous morts alors il appelle la police. Celui là n'est pas le chef mais il ouvre le conteneur donc il est complice.
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    8 Vietnamiens de Ha Tinh seraient dans le camion

    Ce soir, au JT de 7 h ils disent qu'il y a des revelations a 7h30 (alinternationale - Avant c'est 1/2 heure d' info "nationales" ; generalement politique).
    Ils expliquent que bien que la fille a envoye un SMS ou elle dit a sa mere qu'elle ne peut plus respirer et elle mais son nom et son adresse dans la partie censure sur la photo : 1, ruelle 2, rue Machin, village Nghèn, Hồng Lĩnh, Ha Tinh, Vietnam
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ng...5.6017016,11z/

    Ils expliquent qu'une photo d'ecran n'est pas une preuve donc officiellement aucun Vietnamien n'est victime.

    Le reporter se rend a cette adresse : On voit que tout le village est chez les parents de la fille.

    Ils disent que 7 autres familles ont perdue la connextion avec leur enfant le meme jour alors qu'il voulait se rendre de France en Angleterre.

    Ce voyage coute 11 000 Livres Sterling soit 12 800 Euro. Les 35 000 Euro c'est por les mafieux Chinois qui lui ont fabrique des faux papier pour aller en France en avion.

    Par ailleur, un autre article dit que la fille de 26 ans a deja ete travailler au Japon par une methode similaire et les parents voulaient qu'elle aille en Angleterre.

    Est-ce eux qui financent ?

    Toutefois, dans les communes de Do Thanh et de Tho Thanh (district de Yen Thanh), 4 familles vérifient les informations fournies par des enfants vivant en Angleterre et soupçonnent que leurs enfants figurent parmi les 39 victimes.
    Dans la commune de Dien Thinh (district de Dien Chau, Nghe An), deux familles attendent que leur fils se rende en Angleterre. Ils sont N.V.H (33 ans) et H.V.T (18 ans).
    Parlant avec les journalistes Thanh Nien, les familles de Messieurs H. et de T. ont déclaré que ces deux hommes s'étaient rendus en France pendant plus d'un an. Récemment, en raison de peu d'emplois, les deux ont décidé de se rendre en Angleterre.
    Le 23 octobre, MH a téléphoné à son domicile pour lui annoncer qu'ils étaient sur le point de traverser la frontière avec l'Angleterre. Le même jour, à midi, les membres de la famille ont reçu un appel d'un étranger leur disant qu'ils devaient préparer 11 000 £ pour payer M. H. Cependant, depuis lors, la famille n'a plus reçu de contact.



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    UBND huyện Can Lộc (Hà Tĩnh) đã tiếp nhận thông tin từ 8 gia đình trên trình báo việc nghi có con em trong vụ 39 người chết trong container ở Anh. Các gia đình cho biết họ mất liên lạc với người thân nhiều ngày qua.



    Vợ chồng ông Phạm Văn Thìn lo lắng ngóng thông tin chính thức về con gái từ cơ quan chức năngẢnh Tân Kỳ




    Chiều nay 26.10, trao đổi với phóng viên Thanh Niên, ông Bùi Huy Cường, Phó chủ tịch UBND huyện Can Lộc (Hà Tĩnh), xác nhận thông tin trên và cho biết các gia đình mong muốn cơ quan chức năng Việt Nam giúp đỡ xác minh danh tính 39 người chết cóng trong thùng xe container ở Essex (Anh) để biết có con họ hay không.


    Vụ 39 thi thể trong container ở Anh: Gia đình ở Hà Tĩnh nghi con gái là nạn nhân


    “Ngoài trường hợp chị Phạm Thị Trà My ở thị trấn Nghèn có nhắn tin về cho người thân vào sáng ngày 23.10 thì 7 trường hợp còn lại gia đình mất liên lạc với các con từ ngày 22.10 cho đến nay. 7 người này quê ở các xã Thanh Lộc, Vĩnh Lộc và Thiên Lộc. Trong đó, xã Thiên Lộc có đến 5 người trình báo có con mất tích khi đang sang nước Anh làm việc”, ông Cường nói.
    Theo ông Cường, qua nắm bắt thông tin từ các gia đình trình báo con mất tích, phần lớn những hộ này cho biết có con đang làm việc ở Đức và Pháp nhưng nghỉ làm ở đây để sang Anh vào những ngày giữa tháng 10, còn một vài hộ khác trình bày có con đi từ Việt Nam sang Trung Quốc để qua Pháp rồi mới qua Anh. Do đó, họ nghi ngờ con họ có thể là 1 trong 39 người chết tại Anh mà báo chí thông tin 2 ngày nay.


    Trước đó, như Thanh Niên đưa tin, ngày 25.10, ông Phạm Văn Thìn (55 tuổi, trú tại khối 7, thị trấn Nghèn, huyện Can Lộc) lên UBND thị trấn làm giấy xác nhận nhân thân để gửi sang Anh nhờ người nhận dạng. Trước đó, sáng 23.10, vợ ông nhận được tin của con gái là chị Phạm Thị Trà My (26 tuổi) với nội dung: "Con xin lỗi bố mẹ, con đi nước ngoài không thành, con chết vì không thở được...".
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    Avez vous remarque : La mafia du Fujian fait credit :
    40 000 $ pour un vrai faux passeport avec visa francais (j'ai pas encore compris pour le visa ?)
    15 000 $ pour France Angleterre en contenair avec leur partenaire de la mafia irlandaise


    The south-eastern province of Fujian in China has a long histories of sending migrants abroad for cash
    La province du Fujian, située dans le sud-est de la Chine, envoie depuis longtemps des migrants à l'étranger contre de l'argent


    Le Fujian (chinois : 福建 ; pinyin : fújiàn ; Wade : Fu-chien ; EFEO : Fou-kien ; POJ : Hok-kian) est une province côtière située au sud-est de la République populaire de Chine, dont le chef-lieu est Fuzhou.
    Les îles côtières (les îles Matsu, Wuqiu, Jinmen et Lieyu) formant l'actuel province taïwanaise du Fujian en font aussi historiquement partie, mais sont restées sous le contrôle du parti nationaliste de la République de Chine dont le gouvernement s'installa sur l'île de Taïwan situé en face du Fujian de l'autre côté du détroit de Taïwan, à la fin de la guerre civile chinoise et de la déclaration de la République populaire de Chine.
    Beaucoup de Taïwanais sont originaires de cette région et parlent toujours un dialecte du Fujian né au Xe siècle et issu du minnanhua (闽南话/閩南話 langue du sud du fleuve Min), resté très proche du chinois médiéval.
    En français, ses habitants sont appelés les Fukiénois.


    Économie

    La province possède à Xiamen (minnan : Amoy), l'une des quatre zones économiques spéciales (ZES) instaurées dans les années 1980 par le gouvernement national, sous l'impulsion des réformes économiques de Deng Xiaoping.


    Fuzhou Rockchip, situé dans la capitale provinciale est un des plus importants concepteurs de semi-conducteurs au monde.
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    [Avez vous remarque : La mafia du Fujian fait credit :
    40 000 $ pour un vrai faux passeport avec visa francais (j'ai pas encore compris pour le visa ?)
    15 000 $ pour France Angleterre en contenair avec leur partenaire de la mafia irlandaise][/QUOTE]

    55 0000 dollars pour aller travailler au noir en Grande Bretagne? Elle serait la proie des patrons ou des collègues quand ce ne sont pas des truands!
    Selon Sky News ,elle venait en Grande Bretagne pour gagner assez d'argent pour payer les études de son frère! Malheureusement la famille va devoir rembourser les prêts contractés au Vietnam .
    Dernière modification par ngjm95 ; 27/10/2019 à 07h10.

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    Maurice "Mo" Robinson est le 2eme chauffeur du 2eme tracteur Scania ; celui qui est venu chercher la remorque refrigeree a 1h05 du matin au port de Purfleet et l'ouvre a 1h10 dans la zone industrielle deserte de Grays, Essex, UK. Constatant que les migrants sont tous mort, il appele la police qui arrive a 1h40.

    Le 1er chauffeur irlandais, seulement 20 ans, celui qui a delivre la remorque au port belge pour le bateau de midi a ete arrete en Republique d'Irlande.

    D'apres le SMS de la fille Tra My, les migrant sont mort a 23 h ; donc en mer.

    Man detained in Dublin 'delivered lorry deaths trailer to Zeebrugge'

    Police investigate whether container in Grays was part of convoy carrying 100 people

    il y avait 3 remorques et 100 migrants dans le convoi ; celle ci est la 3eme.

    Ben Quinn

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    Mon 28 Oct 2019 07.03 GMT First published on Sun 27 Oct 2019 11.51 GMT

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    Pippa Mills, deputy chief constable of Essex police. Photograph: Victoria Jones/PA

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    Pippa Mills, Deputy Chief Constable, speaking outside Grays Police Station said "all 39 people inside the vehicle had died".

    She said that at this stage the force had not identified where the victims are from.

    The 39 bodies were discovered in the early hours of Wednesday at Waterglade Industrial Park in Eastern Avenue, Grays.

    It is thought that 38 adults and one teenager have died but police have said identification could be a "lengthy process".


    A man detained at Dublin Port on Saturday is the haulier who delivered a trailer to Zeebrugge before it was found in Essex with the bodies of 39 people inside, according to Belgian authorities.
    The 23-year-old Northern Irishman was identified last week but details were kept quiet, according to the Belgian public prosecutor’s office, which said that they agreed with police in Essex that British authorities would issue a European arrest warrant that enabled him to be detained.
    “We were able to identify him last week in a formal way. I can’t go into detail but it was a good piece of police work,” Eric Van Der Sypt, a spokesperson for the Belgian public prosecutor’s officer, told the Guardian. “We are sure he is the driver that brought the container to the port.”
    Van Der Sypt said it was his understanding that a request would be made for the man’s extradition to Britain but that Belgian authorities may also want to question him. “I think the most important thing is that the police interrogate him as soon as possible because even if he is not involved directly in the case he may have crucial information.”
    The man’s lorry, a Scania, was seized as he got off a ferry in Dublin on Saturday.
    The Gardaí said the man was arrested as a result of an outstanding court order for an offence in the Republic of Ireland jurisdiction and later appeared before a court in Dublin.
    A spokesperson for Essex police said the force was in liaison with their Irish counterparts in relation to the arrest Dublin Port. In a statement later on Sunday, Essex police confirmed the man arrested in Dublin was a “person of interest” in the force’s murder investigation regarding the container found in Grays.

    The development came as three people arrested in connection with the investigation into the deaths of the 39 people whose bodies were found in the back the container in Grays were released on bail.
    They were bailed on Sunday as investigators considered the possibility that the lorry in Grays was part of a convoy carrying more than 100 people, and Vietnamese police took hair and blood samples to get DNA from relatives of people feared to be among the dead.
    The three had been questioned on suspicion of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic people. A 38-year-old man and a 38-year-old woman from Warrington were arrested in Cheshire on Friday, and a 46-year-old man from Northern Ireland was arrested at Stansted on the same day.
    Essex police said the man and woman from Warrington had been released on bail until 11 November, and the man from Northern Ireland had been bailed until 13 November.
    The driver of the lorry, Maurice Robinson, 25, was charged on Saturday with 39 counts of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic people. He will appear at Chelmsford magistrates court on Monday, where he will also face 39 counts of conspiracy to assist unlawful immigration and money laundering.
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    Selon ce journal holandais le 1er chauffeur (Eamon Harrison) a 23 ans

    2eme info : Le frigo de la remorque etait eteint car le connaissement indiquait un "chargement de biscuit"

    Le port de Zeebrugge et les doaniers belges ne surveillent pas les contenair a l'export car ce n'est pas leur boulot. Ils surveillent ce qui rentre en Europe.

    Les doaniers anglais, le port de Purfllet, laissent passer 3 contenaires frigorifiques avec le frigo eteint... normal, c'est des biscuits !

    Container had valse vrachtbrief
    Gisteren om 06:00 door cds, tlg, jvh

    Onder het mom dat het om een lading koekjes ging, is de dodencontainer met 39 Aziaten aan boord vorige week dinsdag afgezet in Zeebrugge. Dat meldt het federaal parket. De 23-jarige chauffeur Eamon H., een Noord-Ier, kon dankzij het speurwerk van Belgische speurders geïdentificeerd worden. De speurders maakten die informatie over aan de Britse en Ierse collega’s. Die laatsten arresteerden de man zaterdag.

    De 23-jarige Eamon H. werd zaterdagmiddag door de politie meegenomen voor verhoor toen hij in Dublin van een ferryboot stapte. Hij kwam van Frankrijk en had daar met zijn vrachtwagen “een aantal dagen ...

    Le conteneur avait un faux connaissement
    Hier à 6h00
    par cds, tlg, jvh
    Comment la "chargement de biscuit" d'un conducteur de 23 ans a tué 39 personnes

    Sous le prétexte d'un chargement de biscuits, le conteneur de la mort contenant 39 Asiatiques à bord a été déposé mardi dernier à Zeebrugge. Le procureur fédéral rapporte ceci. Le pilote âgé de 23 ans, Eamon H., un Irlandais du Nord, a pu être identifié grâce au travail de détective des enquêteurs belges. Les enquêteurs ont fourni cette information à leurs collègues britanniques et irlandais. Ce dernier a arrêté l'homme samedi.

    Eamon H., 23 ans, a été emmené par la police samedi pour un interrogatoire alors qu'il débarquait d'un ferry à Dublin. Il venait de France et avait son camion là-bas pendant "quelques jours ...

    Irish people smuggling gang at centre of Essex lorry container deaths has been under investigation ‘for a year’

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    Police transfer the lorry container the assign our bodies have been stumbled on, in Grays

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    An Irish folk smuggling gang suspected of being at centre of the Essex lorry container deaths has been below investigation for a 365 days, it has been claimed.

    A specialist monetary crime team within the Republic of Eire have been having a notion at whether alleged individuals of the gang have been smuggling cigarettes and alcohol into the UK.
    The news will expand questions over how they have been ready to proceed working and what intelligence modified into as soon as shared with the British authorities.
    It emerged as Mo Robinson, the 25-365 days-dilapidated driver of the truck, looked in court docket the assign it modified into as soon as alleged that he’s segment of a “global ring facilitating the circulation of clear desire of illegal immigrants into the UK” and had been conspiring to traffic folk for the closing 10 months.



    Court docket sketch of Maurice Robinson who looked by video hyperlink at Chelmsford Magistrates’ Court docket, Essex, the assign he has been remanded in custody

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    Four suspects, in conjunction with three girls from Nghe An province and one male from Hanoi, have been additionally arrested by Vietnamese authorities in reference to the case.
    Essex police have been on Monday night additionally due to quiz Eamon Harrison, a 23 365 days dilapidated truck driver from County Down in Northern Eire, who modified into as soon as arrested at Dublin Port on Saturday in the case of an alleged assault within the Republic of Eire closing August and held in custody.




    Belgian prosecutors printed that the refrigerated container by which the victims had been travelling had no longer been turned on and the cargo modified into as soon as listed as “biscuits”.
    Many of these that are lacking feared useless closing had contact with their members of the family in France, raising fears that this is capable of perhaps well well be the assign they have been loaded onto the lorry.
    The truck’s GPS presentations that it travelled to Calais and Dunkirk sooner than returning to Belgium. Mr Robinson smooth the truck within the early hours of Wednesday morning after it traveled by ferry from Zeebrugge to Purfleet in Essex and is believed to have called an ambulance to alert authorities.



    Boris Johnson signs a ebook of condolence for the 39 folk stumbled on useless in a lorry container closing week

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    He is charged with 39 counts of manslaughter of participants unknown, conspiracy to traffic folk between December 1 2018 and October 24 2019 and conspiracy to motivate unlawful immigration between the same dates. He modified into as soon as further charged with one rely of shopping prison property and one rely of concealing prison property, every between December 1 2018 and October 24 2019.
    As he looked in court docket Boris Johnson and Priti Patel, the Dwelling Secretary, every visited Thurrock in Essex to signal a ebook of condolences to the 39 useless.
    The High Minister wrote: “We mourn these that misplaced their lives. Our thoughts are with their households far away. In condemning the callousness of these guilty for this crime, we within the authorities of the Uk unravel to buy out every little thing in our energy to elevate the perpetrators to justice.”



    More arrests are anticipated to be made within the arriving days as officers end in on a community of criminals that operate in county Armagh in Northern Eire and in county Monaghan, factual over the border within the Republic.
    Eminent individuals of the community have interests in transport and logistics companies and sources divulge that for the previous desire of years, the gang has been smuggling alcohol and cigarettes into the UK and Eire.



    Dwelling Secretary Priti Patel, signs a ebook of condolence, all the diagram thru a seek the advice of with to Thurrock Council Areas of work in Essex

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    Un gang bien connu de la police irlandaise qui le suivait depuis des annees pour trafic d'alcool et de cigarettes ; Comme les Anglais, les Irlandais font rien comme tout le monde:

    Des membres éminents du réseau ont des intérêts dans les entreprises de transport et de logistique et des sources affirment que depuis plusieurs années, le gang fait passer de l'alcool et des cigarettes en contrebande au Royaume-Uni et en Irlande.

    Il est entendu que plus récemment, il s'est implanté dans le trafic de personnes grâce à des contacts établis avec d'autres bandes criminelles internationales.

    Mes supositions : Ils achetaient des cigarettes de contrefacon a la mafia chinoise qui les a branche sur le trafic de migrant. Ca paye mieux ! 3 contenaires de 100 personnes a 12 000 Euro, ca fait 1milion 2 !

    Au cours du week-end, les médias irlandais ont rapporté que le Criminal Assets Bureau (CAB), chargé de déterminer si les actifs financiers sont des produits du crime, a enquêté sur ce gang au cours de l'année écoulée.
    Il est entendu que le CAB fait maintenant partie d’une enquête plus vaste menée par la police d’Essex.
    Un porte-parole de An Garda Síochána a refusé de préciser l'ampleur de l'enquête, si des mesures étaient prises ou si des informations étaient partagées avec d'autres agences en Irlande ou au Royaume-Uni.
    Steve Harvey, ancien officier supérieur d'Europol et expert en matière de traite, a déclaré que dans le cadre d'une enquête transfrontalière, il est probable que des "renseignements de base" tels que les noms et les détails mineurs des infractions présumées auraient été partagés avec d'autres pays.

    Il a ajouté que si les autorités irlandaises pensaient que le gang était impliqué dans le trafic de personnes, il serait difficile de répondre à leurs questions sur la manière dont elles pourraient continuer à fonctionner.

    «Dans une enquête où il y a un risque de préjudice, qu'il s'agisse d'un trafic de personnes ou de la traite des êtres humains, une évaluation des risques doit être réalisée. Vous devez décider combien de temps vous laissez une activité criminelle se dérouler, si tout cela se produit, s'il existe un risque de préjudice », a-t-il déclaré au Telegraph.
    «S'il s'agit de contrebande de cigarettes ou de produits illicites, vous pouvez laisser cela courir pour rassembler des preuves. Mais la question est très différente si des êtres humains sont impliqués. "



    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tainer-deaths/
    Prominent members of the network have interests in transport and logistics firms and sources claim that for the past number of years, the gang has been smuggling alcohol and cigarettes into the UK and Ireland.

    It is understood that more recently it has branched out into people smuggling activities through contacts it has established with other international criminal gangs. It was reported in Irish media over the weekend that the Criminal Assets Bureau (CAB), which is responsible for investigating whether financial assets are the proceeds of crime, has investigated this gang over the past year.
    It is understood that the CAB is now part of a wider investigation which is being lead by Essex police.
    A spokesman for An Garda Síochána declined to comment on the extent of this investigation, whether any action was taken, or whether any intelligence was shared with any other agencies in Ireland or the UK.
    Steve Harvey, a former senior Europol officer and expert in trafficking, said that in an investigation that crossed borders it is likely that “basic intelligence” such as names and minor details of the suspected offences would have been shared with other countries.

    He said that if Irish authorities thought that the gang were involved in people smuggling there will be questions to answer as to how they were able to continue operating.

    “In an investigation where there is a risk of harm, be it people smuggling or human trafficking, there must be a risk assessment. You have to decide how long you allow a criminal activity to take place, if it all, if there is a risk of harm,” he told the Telegraph.
    “If it is cigarette smuggling or smuggling illicit commodities then you might want to let it run to gather evidence. But it is a very different issue if there are human beings involved.”
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    Faire des études selon son niveau au Royaume Uni peut être un bon alibi pour y vivre et trouver du travail Les frais d'études des écoles professionnelles sont moins de 5 000 livres , bien moins chers que les passeurs.Reste à savoir si le Vietnam accorde facilement le visa de sortie.

    https://www.ukuni.net/articles/cheap...ional-students
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    Ca fait au moins 15 ans que les visas de sortie n'existent plus. Beaucoup d'etudiants vietnamiens viennent en France puis repartent. Les poisson en bois" (Les paysans du Nghệ An et de Ha tinh) vont a l'etranger pour gagner de l'argent dans des metiers qu'ils jugent peu qualifies comme coifeuse, faire les ongles, ouvrier agricole. Parfois ils comprennent mieux l'anglais que les Francais car ils ont vu la tele en americain depuis tout petit.

    En France, des cours de francais gratuits pour les migrants sont finances par la Caisse d'allocations familiales.

    Des familles de nombreuses communes des districts de Yen Thanh, Dien Chau et Can Loc (province de Nghe An) et de Ha Tinh ont signalé que leurs enfants et leurs proches avaient perdu contact et avaient été soupçonnées d'être des victimes. Jusqu'à présent, le nombre total de cas signalés aux autorités est de 24 personnes.

    39 personnes dans une semi-remorque frigorifique de 78 m3 (10.70m x 2.45 x 3m), ca fait exactement 2 m3 pour une personne. Combien d'heures peut on tenir ? Apparement 9 h ! Tra My a envoiye son SMS 2 h avant l'arrivee au port, quand le bateau remonte la Tamise. Ils etaient dedans depuis + de 10 h. Les occupants des 2 autres remorques ont survecu
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